Tamera Terndrup
Using Flickr with Students
Has anyone ever tried using Flickr in the classroom?
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Using Flickr with Students
Has anyone ever tried using Flickr in the classroom?
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No, I haven't :(
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Flickr and similar sites are blocked at school along with Diigo and Delicious.
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I use Flickr with my students. I created a group to which they post and share their images and, now, video.
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We just did several workshop about Flickr Storm. You can search for photos under CC and add them to a tray. then save the whole thing off as a link for students. AWESOME. In google do a search for Flickr Storm and work with it. or come in Second Life and look up Peyton Merlin who is an expert in Flickr Storm with elementary students.
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I used this search application http://johnjohnston.name/flickrCC/ or http://www.zoo-m.com/flickr-storm/ for searching creative commons images. There may be a possibility of inappropriate for school images, but no worse than searching google images.
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I use Flickr on a weekly basis. Students have done all kinds of projects with it including Flickr slideshows, badges, and learning about Creative Commons. We have also used the non-Flickr tools that are available like Big Huge Labs. Its a great program and is perfect for teaching your kids about CC and copyright.
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Hi Tamera,
I use my Flickr account to feed students' photos tagged with "st0nemas0nry" http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=st0nemas0nry&w=8620035%40N03 into their web social ning at http://stomas.ning.com/
I also feed public photos tagged "stonemasonry" from other Flickr users interested in the same topic: http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=stonemasonry&w=all
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Hey if you are using flickr with students here is something to consider
http://khokanson.blogspot.com/2008/04/lesson-on-reflection-more-copyright.html
and here are a boatload of resources for digital images
http://khokanson.blogspot.com/2008/04/lesson-on-reflection-more-copyright.html
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Depending on what you want to do, I think you may get a lot more out of using flickr if you poke around on your own to see how other people are using it to find like minded people. Whether or not you can see their projects on flickr, it's great to build up your contacts on the site so you can go visit their pages and connect with them there. A lot of people are using flickr as a storage place for projects they do offline, and may not have stuff they do with kids (how old are your students?) visible publicly.
Groups are a great way to find people with similar interests
- sometimes the groups serve as discussion places (Utata is fabulous if you want to see a lot of social activity) http://www.flickr.com/groups/utata/
- some groups serve as a place to gather examples (I just tagged several groups like this on your topic)
http://www.diigo.com/user/ebarney/%22flickr+for+educators%22
- some groups help you find your way around flickr by linking to other groups or projects:
http://www.flickr.com/groups/historydirectory/
Take the time to read through group descriptions first to make sure you're in the right place - sometimes the groups are just holding places for sites outside flickr too.
My bit of a soapbox:
As always, when you're working on the internet you'll want to investigate the privacy options and saftey controls. I think flickr is also an excellent way to teach kids about the ethics of things like using other people's images - I've seen too many teachers being BAD examples of this, grabbing photos from people's streams without citing the author or paying attention to copyright resrictions. It's not ethical behavior and it's not even that hard to avoid. The Creative Commons search is a little buried in the Advanced Search option for images, but it's a great resource to find photos that people WANT to share and enjoy seeing used. If you take the time to send people a note when you use their photos, they are usually really appreciative. But never use anything that's copyright without getting permission first, of course.
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I find several of these conversations fascinating as to the varying degrees of what is accessible on campuses and what isn't. I have worked in several school districts in town in some form of a technology position and many of these, including Diigo is blocked. I would love to be able to use Flickr, Diigo, post videos to YouTube, etc. but down here in south Texas many things are blocked by the district content filters. Pushing for change, how can we learn and use these tools without consistent access throughout various school districts?
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What kind of access do students have at home? It may be even more important to try to talk about the ways they use these and the issues like stealing other people's work vs. creative commons or how they can tell that the stuff they do is safe. Or even who might use the stuff they put online:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20896643
and you can see the photo mentioned in the article and a long discussion about it here:
http://flickr.com/photos/sesh00/515961023
You could bring a copy of the original photo (do a google search to find it) and the ad to class, ask kids if they think the way it was used was a problem, how they'd feel if someone used their picture that way, and tell them about some of the legal issues. Make it personal if possible - how would you feel if you saw your picture in an add with "Dump Your Pen Pal" and "free text Virgin to Virgin" printed on top of it, with no one asking your permission?
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David Jakes has some excellent resources on Flickr and great tutorials on using Flickrstorm. http://www.jakesonline.org/flickrsites.htm
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ThinkQuest, a student website development competition, contains some of the best examples of how students use Flickr. Having just finished judging this year's competition, I can tell you that, IMHO, the websites with the highest score in originality of work, citations, and creativity were those that used Flickr CC and/or their own images.
I share a variety of my own pictures on Flickr and use the Share-alike w/attribution copyright. That way students and teachers can use any image they like. My site is rated safe, and it contains seasonal pictures and images from my community;D
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I used Flickr with my students to do the "Life Around Here" project. We had some pictures of our town and then the students could upload their own pictures. It worked very slickly.
I used Flickr storm to get some pictures for a first grade Voice Thread project and that was great.
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Dave-
I didn't know if you were already part of this conversation, started by the founder of Diigo. I thought there might be some ideas here to share about Flickr for your web 2.0 science presentation.
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Have you tried requesting a specific site to be unblocked? I have done that in my district (ex. teachertube), making sure to site specific reasons why the site/tool is educational sound/important. Give it a shot- What's the worst that could happen? :)
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Tamera started this conversation. I thought it might be of interest to others as a way to share and collaborate on ideas, and invited friends in my educator contact list to join in the conversation. A good usecase for Diigo's DMS system :-) Please keep your thought and ideas on flickr in classroom coming!
Note: there are various ways to share and collaborate within the Diigo community. However, one should be mindful of various personal notification preference options available to you as a user, and proper ways of sharing info to avoid possible information overload to yourself and others.
I will write a blog post on our recommendations and suggested etiquette. Hope it may help everyone. (soon, if I can clear off my huge list of to-do tasks quickly :-)
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Flickr was recently blocked by my school district... I did use it for building concept vocabulary. Tagging pictures is great. I am still going to use it by downloading it at home....and then sharing with my students.
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Here are some real world examples of how Flickr is used in the classroom:
"Real Life" Flickr Classroom Projects
Haiku Project > http://flickr.com/photos/rdcurry/sets/72157600261872309/
Flat Bobby Project > http://flatbobby.blogspot.com/
Flickr Diorama > http://www.flickr.com/photos/lewiselementary/69461520/
Ancient Egypt > http://flickr.com/photos/rdcurry/sets/72157603065955417/
Some of the education groups on Flickr:
Classroom Displays > http://flickr.com/groups/classrmdisplays/
Flickr for Education > http://flickr.com/groups/33384223@N00/
Reinventing PBL > http://flickr.com/groups/reinventingpbl/
Here's a site with links demonstrating other users:
http://teachersteachingteachers.org/?p=99
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Check out the work some students did identifying trigonometry in the real world using the notes on their Flickr images. The pink sweater is my favorite.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/pc40sf06/
This post isn't recent, but I liked the ideas for using Flickr in the classroom:
http://jakespeak.blogspot.com/2006/03/uh-oh-another-flickr-post.html
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Sorry, I don't use Flickr in the classroom
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I use flickr and flickrCC myself to get images for use in the lab. Lots of students have discovered the wonder of flickr for finding images of images for either personal or school projects. It's not (currently) blocked in my district and I'm guessing it won't be if it hasn't so far. Many students end up in flickr from the search engines, rather than starting there. They'd rather start with LiveSearch or Google Images first. I'm trying to migrate them to look on flickrCC first.
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Hey, Ken-
Are you on Diigo? Anyway, this thread is about Flickr in the classroom. Thought you might chime in with your two cents.
~Nancy
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I know this conversation is about Flickr specifically but I'm a little nervous about using that in the classroom. Google image search as well. But PicSearch (http://picsearch.com) is a good image search and it purposefully filters out offensive material. Check the About page. It's been good so far.
Helen Mowers and I wrote an article for the School Library Journal about image searches. This isn't shameless self-promotion really, I just think it's a pretty good article about image searches.
http://www.schoollibraryjournal.com/article/CA6555562.html
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Anna, picsearch.com and learn.creativecommons.org proved inaccessible. Is that happening on your end or just mine?
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Anna, It was a good article with many great links for teachers, parents and students to use;D
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Both of those sites open just fine for me here. Tried them again now just to be sure...
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Anna, two seconds of keyword searching on Picsearch.com reveal 1) Why it's blocked and 2) That I'm still prudish in my old age.
8->
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I tried asking the district CTO to be allowed to use the blog feature with students using Gaggle.net and was told no because students could not have email accounts. You can set up Gaggle with a generic user/email account and close off the other portions of Gaggle but the director didn't want to hear anything of it. I wasn't interested in the students having email accounts and tried an alternate route. I was going to use Saywire for secure student blogging but that was also denied. Then the director's wife started using Blogmeister with her students and suddenly a proposal was made to the school board to allow students to blog next school year. As campus instructional technologists you would have thought that our efforts to incorporate web 2.0 tools would have been rewarded and assisted but unfortunately that isn't the case hence my moving on to another school district in town. The activities suggested here are the types that I have used in previous districts and are the type that will give our students the experiences in secure environments that we are seeking to successfully prepare our students.
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Flickr for students is blocked at my school. However, teachers have access. So we have used it for whole group activities on the screen in the front of the room.
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We use Flickr to upload pictures of student's work mostly this year of Google Earth images and digital microscope images annotated with Skitch.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/14158911@N04/
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You can help picsearch by emailing offensive@picsearch.com so they can remove the pictures from their searches and work on bettering their filters. Things still get through, yes, but I think it's safer than a Google image search or a Flickr search. I do like that they're focus is good, even if they need to work on their filters.
I don't EVEN want to know what you searched on. ;)
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How does access for teachers work? Our district is blanketly blocking so teachers and technologists don't have any more access than students. I get the impression they'll tell us they CAN'T set separate parameters.
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It really all depends on the type of filtering software your district is using. Our district just managed to provide separate rights to the internet for teachers and students based on our login. I've also seen that some filtering software pops up an override box for a teacher to enter a password to gain access to blocked sites for a certain period of time. My district is not that far along yet though.
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I use flickr and jing together. For example if I am trying to point out something on a web page I will take a screenshot with jing and them upload it to Jing. I am collecting a nice and useful group of images this way.
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Hi Miguel,
Love any tool that will take the creativity of students/teachers and easily allow teachers to apply them in their classrooms. To that end I created a document on the curricular applications of some of the tools available in Flickr Toys - http://bighugelabs.com To this end I created a Google Doc with several integration ideas for some of the applications in Flickr Toys - http://joevans.pbwiki.com/Flickr+Toys+and+More
Would love to have more input to the document!
Cheers
John Evans
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I've used Flickr storm with teachers. I showed the teachers how to select a variety of photos, save the Flickr Storm url to allow the students to select from the photos the teacher selected.
:) Diana Kenney
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Flickr Storm is a great tool to use with younger kids. It allows you to search photos, choose the ones you like, then save them as a group. The link takes you to a page that only uses those photos. It is wonderful if you don't want kiddos to run into objectionable content, or spen forever searching.
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Flickr Storm is cool. Thanks for sharing.
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What are the copyright implications for the photos found via Flickr Storm? Are there ways to only search for Creative Commons licensed works?
John Evans
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Flickr Storm has a drop down to allow you to select only Creative Commons in your search. What I don't see is a way to only search "safe" images...
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My understanding is that these pictures are the best of the best so I would assume they would be safe images. I could be wrong.
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Anna, I don't know any of the technical "how to" answers, but at my district teachers have access to YouTube and Google searching and students don't. We use Novell and I think that in the set up some how you can set up two (or more) categories of people and based on their logins give them different rights.
Janice
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Your searching isn't any better then searching the normal way, however once you have chosen the pictures a head of time for a project. They are only allowed to see the ones you have chosen. Thus they are safe.
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Just go here and see some of the many ways I have used Flickr.
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