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  • #1 on 07-09-2008

    Paul Greenberg

    Here's an article that I wrote for CRM Magazine this month. The concept is embedded in the new edition of the book.

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    destinationCRM.com: A Company Like Me

    A Company Like Me
    It's going to take a very special kind of organization to truly make a personal connection with customers.
    By Paul Greenberg
    Posted Jul 1, 2008

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    I recently started a conversation on my blog, PGreenblog (the56group.typepad.com), a conversation that should be had by any firm interested in its customers: At this point, a CRM practitioner needs to get into the minds of those customers -- and, after figuring them out, needs to take the necessary measures or risk losing them to someone who did.

    Today’s most common trusted source is "someone like me": I trust those who are most similar to me. That’s easy enough to handle on a person-to-person level. But what about person-to-company? I’d need to see that the company’s persona is "like me" and that it is able to institutionally reproduce that state -- meaning that if the employee with whom I feel a kinship leaves, I might miss him, but my relationship with or feeling about that company wouldn’t be damaged at all. How can a company achieve this? It ain’t easy to operate with all the necessary day-to-day processes, technologies, and decisions, and still come across as a peer to the customer.

    A combination of CRM and personalization might do the trick. CRM 1.0 has been a series of processes, technologies, and methodologies organized around the operational tasks that were designed to institutionalize a way of managing customer-company interaction.

    CRM 2.0, while incorporating what CRM 1.0 does, also incorporates the personalization of those interactions and the integration of the customer into the planning, strategies, and direction of the company through the use of tools, products, services, and experiences so that the customer feels a sense of participation in the process.
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    CRM 1.0 concerned itself with the customer as the object of a satisfactory sale. CRM 2.0 concerns itself with the customer as the subject of a satisfactory experience.

    Both attempt to institutionalize practices to improve customer-company interaction. Their respective visions are driven by the expectations of the social forces guiding the contemporary business ecosystem of each era. In CRM 1.0 that was the company and the associated enterprise value chain. In CRM 2.0 -- right now -- that’s the empowered customers and the associated peer-to-peer social networks.

    Yet there’s one facet that can’t be ignored for CRM 2.0—to wit, that we’re not just talking about personalization; we’re talking about humanization. Because today’s empowered customers are enmeshed in some way with a network of peers, their expectations are dramatically changed:

    1. Customers expect that they can interact with a company the same way that they interact with a friend or a peer whom they trust.
    2. They expect a personal relationship with the company, not just with a person in the company, though that’s how the relationship often manifests.
    3. They expect that interactions with the company will have the attributes and traits of that deeply personal connection they have to a peer.
    4. They expect trustworthiness and transparency to permeate the company’s DNA.
    5. They expect that the company is, by some measure, distinctive.
    6. They expect the company to converse with them, not push corporate hype at them. Marketing needs to aim for word of mouth -- engaging customers in conversation through use of social media like blogs, or engaging internal customers in a conversation through a wiki.
    7. They expect coolness and style to be factors in that conversation between customer and company -- because they’re intimate factors in conversations between friends.

    This level of humanization may not be defining for all companies. Customers will still make some purchases in a utilitarian fashion from a plurality of companies they deal with. (And the shoe is now on the other foot: Those companies are now seen by customers as the objects of a purchase.) The result to be desired is not just a repeat buyer (though that’s certainly good), but an advocate who’s going to say, "This company loves me the way I love it." You have to gear your strategies toward that kind of customer -- and settle for the one who merely returns to buy. Your performance as a peer has to meet or exceed your customer’s expectations of that performance. Or you lose.


    Paul Greenberg is president of The 56 Group (the56group.typepad.com), a strategic CRM consulting services firm, and a cofounder of CRM training company BPT Partners. The fourth edition of his best-selling book, CRM at the Speed of Light, will be out in December 2008.

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      • #2 on 07-12-2008 , replying to Paul Greenberg on #1

        Karl Wabst

        Nice. I quoted you in a web discussion for a class project. Good timing! Thanks!

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      • #3 on 07-13-2008 , replying to Paul Greenberg on #1

        Paul Gillin

        I'll make this recommended reading on my blog. I think you're right on that customers want to do business with people, not corporate entities

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      • #4 on 07-13-2008 , replying to Paul Greenberg on #1

        Gregory Yankelovich

        Paul Greenberg wrote:
        >

        Here's an article that I wrote for CRM Magazine this month. The concept is embedded in the new edition of the book.

        Quotes:

        destinationCRM.com: A Company Like Me

        A Company Like Me
        > It's going to take a very special kind of organization to truly make a personal connection with customers.
        > By Paul Greenberg
        > Posted Jul 1, 2008
        >
        > ShareThis
        > Print Version
        > Comments (0)
        > Page 1
        >
        > I recently started a conversation on my blog, PGreenblog (the56group.typepad.com), a conversation that should be had by any firm interested in its customers: At this point, a CRM practitioner needs to get into the minds of those customers -- and, after figuring them out, needs to take the necessary measures or risk losing them to someone who did.
        >
        > Today’s most common trusted source is "someone like me": I trust those who are most similar to me. That’s easy enough to handle on a person-to-person level. But what about person-to-company? I’d need to see that the company’s persona is "like me" and that it is able to institutionally reproduce that state -- meaning that if the employee with whom I feel a kinship leaves, I might miss him, but my relationship with or feeling about that company wouldn’t be damaged at all. How can a company achieve this? It ain’t easy to operate with all the necessary day-to-day processes, technologies, and decisions, and still come across as a peer to the customer.
        >
        > A combination of CRM and personalization might do the trick. CRM 1.0 has been a series of processes, technologies, and methodologies organized around the operational tasks that were designed to institutionalize a way of managing customer-company interaction.
        >
        > CRM 2.0, while incorporating what CRM 1.0 does, also incorporates the personalization of those interactions and the integration of the customer into the planning, strategies, and direction of the company through the use of tools, products, services, and experiences so that the customer feels a sense of participation in the process.
        > Sponsor text:
        > FREE WHITE PAPER: Best Practices in CRM and ECommerce
        >
        > CRM 1.0 concerned itself with the customer as the object of a satisfactory sale. CRM 2.0 concerns itself with the customer as the subject of a satisfactory experience.
        >
        > Both attempt to institutionalize practices to improve customer-company interaction. Their respective visions are driven by the expectations of the social forces guiding the contemporary business ecosystem of each era. In CRM 1.0 that was the company and the associated enterprise value chain. In CRM 2.0 -- right now -- that’s the empowered customers and the associated peer-to-peer social networks.
        >
        > Yet there’s one facet that can’t be ignored for CRM 2.0—to wit, that we’re not just talking about personalization; we’re talking about humanization. Because today’s empowered customers are enmeshed in some way with a network of peers, their expectations are dramatically changed:
        >
        > 1. Customers expect that they can interact with a company the same way that they interact with a friend or a peer whom they trust.
        > 2. They expect a personal relationship with the company, not just with a person in the company, though that’s how the relationship often manifests.
        > 3. They expect that interactions with the company will have the attributes and traits of that deeply personal connection they have to a peer.
        > 4. They expect trustworthiness and transparency to permeate the company’s DNA.
        > 5. They expect that the company is, by some measure, distinctive.
        > 6. They expect the company to converse with them, not push corporate hype at them. Marketing needs to aim for word of mouth -- engaging customers in conversation through use of social media like blogs, or engaging internal customers in a conversation through a wiki.
        > 7. They expect coolness and style to be factors in that conversation between customer and company -- because they’re intimate factors in conversations between friends.
        >
        > This level of humanization may not be defining for all companies. Customers will still make some purchases in a utilitarian fashion from a plurality of companies they deal with. (And the shoe is now on the other foot: Those companies are now seen by customers as the objects of a purchase.) The result to be desired is not just a repeat buyer (though that’s certainly good), but an advocate who’s going to say, "This company loves me the way I love it." You have to gear your strategies toward that kind of customer -- and settle for the one who merely returns to buy. Your performance as a peer has to meet or exceed your customer’s expectations of that performance. Or you lose.
        >
        >
        > Paul Greenberg is president of The 56 Group (the56group.typepad.com), a strategic CRM consulting services firm, and a cofounder of CRM training company BPT Partners. The fourth edition of his best-selling book, CRM at the Speed of Light, will be out in December 2008.
        >


            I also feel very passionately about the possibility of a “real” relationship between the institution and the individual, but I am less optimistic about achieving this state within the life expectancy of CRM 2.0. There are three major obstacles in our way which imho would take much longer time to overcome:
            1. Authenticity - many, if not most, institutions see the customer from the next quarter sales forecast point of view and no technology can change that. There is an opinion that the institution has no social conscience, only individuals that are part of the institution have it, so until there is a very clear, undisputable connection between authenticity and profitability it would be a long time before we see any meaningful change. I know there are exemptions and we all can name one or two institutions which have demonstratively got it, but we need much more - even now the truly successful implementations of CRM 1.0 are still only a relatively small minority relative to the number of attempts.
            2. Asymmetry - it is too common of an experience that an institution has a much louder voice than the individual. I can see great promise in current technology to change that, but the model has yet to emerge to the best of my knowledge.

            3. Execution - it takes time to earn trust in a relationship, whether it is between people or institutions, time to observe a certain consistency in behavior and authenticity of intent, which I covered above. We all have experienced dealing with individuals who represented their institution in an exceptional way, but building processes and organizational changes to provide such experience consistently, across an institution, is still a huge challenge which is not a technology issue but a cultural one.

            All these aside I do believe that change is the only constant and technology is a great tool to accelerate change..

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