How should we use the tagging system to better organize our group bookm... (48)

Carla Arena

Week 2 Discussion - How should we use the tagging system to better organize our group bookmarks and enhance collective knowledge within the LearningwithComputers group?

Jose Antonio da Silva

Carla Arena wrote:
> Week 2 Discussion - How should we use the tagging system to better organize our group bookmarks and enhance collective knowledge within the LearningwithComputers group?
Hi Carla,
I think we should try to tag posts, bookmarks, etc in a way that makes it easier for others to find. We should also think of ways to tag things with as many keywords as possible.
Cheers
JA

susana canelo

Carla Arena wrote:
> Week 2 Discussion - How should we use the tagging system to better organize our group bookmarks and enhance collective knowledge within the LearningwithComputers group?

I usually tag with nouns, but your idea to create more meaningful new words is just great. As an example: edudiigolwc .
A hug
Susana

Mary Hillis

Like JA said, we should try to tag things so they are easier for others to find. When you bookmark something in Diigo, it generates some recommended tags for you, so you can choose any or all of the recommended tags for your bookmarks. I think this makes it easier to tag posts so that they are easier for others to find.

Also, I noticed that you can use tags with multiple words if you put quotation marks around them. Although I haven't used this yet, I can see that it might make it easier to tag things sensibly because you don't have to debate over using tags like *lesson_plan* or *lessonplan*; you could simply use quotation marks for "lesson plan". Maybe this is another advantage of using Diigo.

What other things do you think about when you are tagging and organizing bookmarks?

Mary Hillis


Jose Antonio da Silva wrote:
> I think we should try to tag posts, bookmarks, etc in a way that makes it easier for others to find. We should also think of ways to tag things with as many keywords as possible.

Joao Alves

I think everyone should give as many tags as he can and that make sense for himself. I would say there are no better tags than others. We should also use the recommended tags Diigo suggests (del.icio.us does the same) and to better organize our group bookmarks we should agree on a special tag for the group like "LWC" that we would always add to every bookmark we tagged.

Organizing tags in topics or bundles like in del.icio.us would be helpful to find the most relevant site about the subject we are interested in.

Mary Hillis wrote:
>you could simply use quotation marks for "lesson plan". Maybe this is another advantage of using Diigo.<

I agree with Mary. The quotation marks are very useful to write tags that have 2 or more words. I have always appreciated this feature in Flickr.

Carla Arena wrote:
> Week 2 Discussion - How should we use the tagging system to better organize our group bookmarks and enhance collective knowledge within the LearningwithComputers group?

Paul Beaufait

Hello everyone,

I'd like to offer some reflections based on observations and suggestions that other participants have made already. To those I will add a few of my own ideas about collective bookmarking.

Joao Alves (among others) urges us to adopt the "tags Diigo suggests...[, and]... agree on a special tag for the group like 'LWC' that we would always add to every bookmark we tagged" (message 5).

Recommended tags are a start, but I'm always curious about who recommends them, and what for. I suppose they represent collective practices that may be more spontaneous or less focused than ours. LWC sounds quick, and easy to remember, yet may be quite obscure to other Diigo uses who don't already know that it stands for Learning with Computers. After many hours on screen, I prefer tags with greater visual definition than all CAP's, so CamelCase is my favorite for MultiWordTags. I'm not sure, however, whether Diigo defeats capitalization. If not, I'd prefer something like LwC.

Joao goes on to suggest,"Organizing tags in topics or bundles like in del.icio.us would be helpful to find the most relevant site about the subject we are interested in."

Though bundles in del.icio.us are quite powerful in that they enable multi-purpose uses of individual tags, as well as consolidation of similar ones, I have a distinct impression that bundling may work better with single word tags. Having done most of my bookmarking in del.icio.us, up to now, I've hardly ever felt a need to double or triple up on words, since searching for intersections or conjunctions between tag sets in del.icio.us is a given. I'm looking forward to finding out whether Diigo offers such powerful search options.

Mary Hillis points out: "... [Y]ou could simply use quotation marks for "lesson plan". Maybe this is another advantage of using Diigo" (message 4), and Joao agrees: "... [Q]uotation marks are very useful to write tags that have 2 or more words. I have always appreciated this feature in Flickr" (message 5). The use of quotation marks to demarcate exact phases may be common to Ma.gnolia bookmarking as well.

Earlier on Susana expressed preference for using nouns as tags (message 3), a preference we share to some extent. I tended to use plural forms for countable nouns. I still do sometimes hoping that bookmarking tool search engines will recognize the word noun as a subset of the category nouns more readily, perhaps, than they recognize the word nouns as a derivative of the tag noun. If such search parameters aren't available yet, they should be. Otherwise, generic web searches for exact quotations and partial character strings may more than suffice for finding content for which interpretation into special terminology is unnecessary.

I've also experimented with a greatest common denominator strategy that works, I imagine, rather like a bundling strategy for similar tags. Take, for instance, collaborat, a tag I tend to favor in de.licio.us to capture the essence of collaborate, collaboration, collaborative, and collaborators. Nevertheless I realize that tags such as collaborat, like the tailor-made one Susana mentioned, edudiigolwc, call for awareness-raising, if not public definition and explanation, in order to be of use to wider and wider groups of bookmark browsers or connoisseurs.

Tag clouds added to blogs, for instance, or provided in group bookmarking tools themselves, for example: de.licio.us and Ma.gnolia, are means of raising awareness. Yet Diigo, as options for individual commentary, comments earmarked for groups, and discussions like this one illustrate, affords ample opportunities for explanation in situ to those wish to elaborate for the benefit of a community such as the Learning with Computers cohort. What a pleasure it is!

Note: I've posted this a second time. because it disappeared once a couple minutes ago when I clicked Add Reply, and refreshing the page and reloading the discussion didn't bring it back.

Maria Lorena Recio

Hi everyone, I think I can't add anything to this post, it is really complete! And I totally agree with all of you, as regards tagging as much as possible and making it meaningful so as to remember later. I think it is the only way of keeping your post organized, if not you tend to forget what you have.
Thanks for sharing all your ideas,
Lore (from Argentina)

Holly Dilatush

Nice posts, all -- I truly feel privileged to have the opportunity to learn from all of you.
I've a question about tagging -- I've just imported nearly 500 bookmarks, all without tags, and wondering if there're any shortcut suggestions to 'attacking' the project of revisiting and tagging them? Probably not, so it's likely to stay on my 'someday' list (where they've been for some time). Also wondering if that was a smart thing for me to do or not -- but I do like the idea of ONE place rather than many, and one "portable" place that's accessible from any computer... and being the impulsive sort, I went ahead and imported without further ado!

Another question -- I've been tagging many things both ESOL and ESL (because I don't know if diigo would automatically search for both. Is there a way to find out ? (is this what others here discussing "bundling" are referring to?).

I need coffee. I'm going to post this, come back later, try to have things make more sense at that point. Apologies if this post seems 'loopy'
Holly

Illya Arnet

Very strange
I tried to leave a message, but it seems to have disappeared.
Here it goes again.

I am glad that this issue is being discussed and I appreciate all the excellent ideas, especially since this is an area that I feel I'm not good at.

Holly, I can really understand you. I tend to start collecting things and then after they've piled up I realize that I should have put some kind of order into the whole business.

However, when I start (things like tagging) I really don't know what is needed until after I've collected them.
I'd say that starting a new bookmark is a chance to start afresh, with an idea of what you can use them for and how you can tag them.

FOr this reason, I don't think I'm going to transfer all my bookmarks to diigo.

I can imaging tagging sites according to language learning, personal development, e-topics, etc.

In any case, this discussion has already got me thinking about better ways of tagging!

Carla Arena

Wow,

I don't even know where to start! So much going on here, and I smile every day when I see where this interaction is taking us. As a group, I feel like we're moving from just collecting resources to a more engaged collective way of making the best out of the resources we share with the group. Here lies the greatest potential.

Illya Arnet wrote:

In any case, this discussion has already got me thinking about better ways of tagging!


That was exactly my idea! I don't think I have an answer or a better system for tagging. In fact, the power of folksonomies is exactly having everybody tagging as much as possible, with as much key-words as you can think of. We won't ever be able to create a true "system", but we can surely have some guidelines for the group. We must be always free to decide how we want to tag our resources, which leads us back to the discussion we had last week of tagging for personal use x tagging for public good. I think we can, at least, try to find a nice balance in a way that we can form "streams of meaning" within this group. In fact, I've found some invaluable resources in Diigo because of you, guys!

An interesting thing? I was thinking of a way to make a thread with the main issues we discussed last week. You know what? João has already done the job for the group as he highlighted the main ideas! How cool is it? There was no need to reinvent the wheel, not even to ask someone to do it! This is a true Community For/Of Practice! Thanks to all.
Take a look how Joao's highlight looks like here.

@ Holly. Great questions! We'll deal with them soon. It's just fantastic that you're speaking up your mind. It pushes us to reflection. We'll explore them.

@ Paul. I also loved the way you clearly explained how tagging works for you. It's certainly a way to get us thinking on effective ways to organize ourselves. All in all, I guess everyone has a very unique way to tag. Why? Because we want it to be extensions of our own memory systems. Every time we want to retrieve info, how effectively could we do that? If you know, remember the tag you used, it's just as simple as typing it. If we don't have a clue how we tagged or where we added it, then bookmarking was kind of useless...In the case of social bookmarking, if you can't retrieve your own, you can check what others have for the topic you're looking for. Tagging will always be ambiguous because our very personal ways of classifying things and making them useful for us. Even so, with folksonomies, we're able to see the latest trends in a determined group or about a certain topic, we can go to places never imagined before.

I think everybody here has very interesting strategies to tag the online resources they find, and we can profit from all this collective intelligence. As David Weinberger said, "Reality is multifaceted. There are lots of ways to slice it. How we choose to slice it up depends on why we're slicing it up". And he goes on saying that in the digital order, "knowledge doesn't have a shape. There are just too many useful, powerful, and beautiful ways to make sense of our world". (and no! I don't get any money to advertise his "Everything is Miscellaneous" book! It's just that it makes sense to talk about it as he writes exactly about what we've been doing and discussing here!)

I finish here with the following. Imagine you're tagging this page here:
http://k12learning20.wikispaces.com/. Which tags would you use for it?

A note: every time I get to my mail and it says there's another message here, I just feel like checking it right away, for I'm learning tons with you all!!! Thanks for the wonderful collective ride!

Let us keep digging diigo!

Carla Arena

marina alfonso

Hi, everyone. Carla wrote:
"Imagine you're tagging this page here:
http://k12learning20.wikispaces.com/. Which tags would you use for it?"

I believe I'd tag it as "e-learning"

Marina

Illya Arnet

Thanks, Carla, for summing things up so far.
I feel the same way when I see messages waiting in diigo!

> I finish here with the following. Imagine you're tagging this page here:
> http://k12learning20.wikispaces.com/. Which tags would you use for it?
>

I think I would tag this site: e-teaching, e-learning, networking, workshop, web2.0
and then add a tag: "prof. development"

Carla Arena

Illya Arnet wrote:

> I think I would tag this site: e-teaching, e-learning, networking, workshop, web2.0
> and then add a tag: "prof. development"

Great, Illya! Let's see what other tags people come up with and then we could discuss it even further the idea of tagging for public good.

jennifer verschoor

Great ideas and wonderful tips on how to create better tags.

I was wondering the difference between tags and categories. Some experts say there is no difference while others think that that they are not the same.

Any suggestions or ideas to clarify this?

Regards
Jennifer

Joao Alves

> I finish here with the following. Imagine you're tagging this page here:
> http://k12learning20.wikispaces.com/. Which tags would you use for it?

I think I would tag it like this: web2.0, wiki, professional_development, technology, edtech

Paul Beaufait

Jennifer wonders about differences "between tags and categories." She says, "Some experts say there is no difference[,] while others think that that they are not the same," and asks "Any suggestions or ideas to clarify this?" (message 15). In a word, yes. Sue Water helped make the difference clear to me, after Edublogs introduced tags.

I'd gotten confused when all the tags on Blogger posts that I'd sucked into my first Edublog became categories, and I still haven't gone back and sorted them all out. However, I made a fresh start on a new Edublog by defining initial categories in advance, and continuing to tag posts with everything I thought fit. I've written a bit about the process on the older Edublog.

Paul Beaufait

Alphabetizing all of the tags proposed so far, I get:

e-learning
e-learning
e-teaching
edtech
networking
prof. development
professional_development
technology
web2.0
web2.0
wiki
workshop

The two that stick out now are ones that caught my eye at first, because like others in that list they suggest commonality of purpose. Yet neither is particularly economical, nor necessarily easy to type accurately.

So, if PD is a bit too cryptic, may I suggest something like ProDev, instead, with or without CamelCase (depending on what your tagging systems and typing skills accommodate)? That would make it similar to EdTech, a bit further up the list (without camelcase).

Although I've adopted numerous bookmarks tagged with strings like e-learning and e-teaching, I'm strongly inclined towards blended learning and teaching, and no longer feel any need to distinguish e- from other learning opportunities.

Paul Beaufait

While it is hard to pretend to be unbiased after reading and writing about tagging practices with regard to a particular site; I've up done, gone, bookmarked, and tagged that site myself, and here are the tags that I adopted and used:

web2.0, wikis, education, learning, teaching, ProDev, k-12

I made the suggested tag wiki plural, and I'm pleased to note that Diigo doesn't defeat CaPiTaLiZaTioN in tags. I'll go back now and add the one that I forgot, networking!

Carla Arena

Carla Arena

Carla Arena

Paul Beaufait wrote:
>

While it is hard to pretend to be unbiased after reading and writing about tagging practices with regard to a particular site; I've up done, gone, bookmarked, and tagged that site myself, and here are the tags that I adopted and used:

> web2.0, wikis, education, learning, teaching, ProDev, k-12

> I made the suggested tag wiki plural, and I'm pleased to note that Diigo doesn't defeat CaPiTaLiZaTioN in tags. I'll go back now and add the one that I forgot, networking!

@ all @ Paul, thanks, thanks, thanks for so many effective tips to the group. We are all learning a lot.

I didn't want to talk much about my own system so I could see how others were using tags. I tend to use underscores and plurals, as well as one word tags, like professionaldevelopment, though I agree with Paul that ProfDev would make sense. I like his use of CamelCase and I do it sometimes, but I have to confess I need to be more consistent. In fact, I need to clean up my tags and edit them to correct double entries, misspelled words, singular and plural tags used for the same noun.

At this point, I'd recommend the reading of the article Folksonomies - Tidying Up Tags? .

Marieke Guy and Emma Tonking mention the importance of educating users to better profit from tagging, like a kind of "tagging literacy". In many cases, there has been:

* Misspelt tags (e.g., libary, libray)
* Badly encoded tags, such as unlikely compound word groupings (e.g.,TimBernersLee)
* Tags that do not follow convention in issues such as case and number; singular versus plural form (e.g., apple, apples)
* Personal tags that are without meaning to the wider community (e.g., mydog)
* Single-use tags that appear only once in the database. (e.g., billybobsdog)

They state some methods to improve tagging:

* using plurals rather than singulars
* using lower case,
* grouping words using an underscore,
* following tag conventions started by others and
* adding synonyms.

What do you all think?

Paul said that he tagged the site we are basing our tag discussion here as web2.0, wikis, education, learning, teaching, ProDev, k-12 and he made a list of previous tags used by others in this group for the wiki:

e-learning
e-learning
e-teaching
edtech
networking
prof. development
professional_development
technology
web2.0
web2.0
wiki
workshop

These were the tags I used: e-learning pd wiki web2.0 professionaldevelopment k12learning20 education teaching learning teachertraining education teacher_project teachertraining 21stcenturyskills web2.0 23things wikis wikispaces collaboration collaborative_learning techtools edtech

No. Don't think I always add those many words, but I was trying to think what would make real sense for me and the group.

This little group activity is just to show that we can have some common ground to empower our collective intelligence, as well as our personal tagging systems that work in our favor for later retrieval of information. Did we miss something here, any key words?

Eagerly waiting for more!

Carla Arena

jennifer verschoor wrote:
> Great ideas and wonderful tips on how to create better tags.
>
> I was wondering the difference between tags and categories. Some experts say there is no difference while others think that that they are not the same.
>
> Any suggestions or ideas to clarify this?


Dear Jen,

Paul has suggested the best post to clarify things written by Sue Waters. I must confess that my tags and categories on my blog are a mess because in wordpress they added the tagging system later on, so I used the Categories as tags, so I need to reorganize things.

Another interesting post about them, you can find at http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/09/27/using-categories-and-tags-effectively-on-your-blog/

As for Diigo, do you think that the "lists" feature could be used to build up categories?

Joao Alves

I like the tags Paul suggested for that site. I will add to my tags the ones like teaching, learning, education and ProDev. This one I would change to ProfDev.

Joao Alves

> As for Diigo, do you think that the "lists" feature could be used to build up categories?

Yes, I think the "Lists" in Diigo could be used as categories. I think they can be quite useful.

Maria Lorena Recio

Carla, I am confused by the use of so many tags. However, I had never been in a group before, I mean, tagging together with a group, so it makes sense to tag as much as possible (bearing in mind our "audience") to make it clear for the rest.
The forum is really interesting, I've been reading more than writing because I can't add much more to what you are all saying. So I'm trying to absorb all your ideas and put them into practise.
Thanks to all for sharing,
Lore (from Argentina)

Carla Arena

Joao Alves wrote:
> > As for Diigo, do you think that the "lists" feature could be used to build up categories?
>
> Yes, I think the "Lists" in Diigo could be used as categories. I think they can be quite useful.

João, we could see how the lists work. However, I think we don't have the "make lists" option for a group. Just for the individual accounts. I'll take a look at it.

Carla Arena

Maria Lorena Recio wrote:
> Carla, I am confused by the use of so many tags. However, I had never been in a group before, I mean, tagging together with a group, so it makes sense to tag as much as possible (bearing in mind our "audience") to make it clear for the rest.
> The forum is really interesting, I've been reading more than writing because I can't add much more to what you are all saying. So I'm trying to absorb all your ideas and put them into practise.
> Thanks to all for sharing,
> Lore (from Argentina)

Dear Lorena,

We are all learning here, so don't worry! That's exactly what we're trying to do here, making sense out of tagging and raising awareness of our individual incentives to tag and how to add value to the group by also using tags that make sense to all. We'll NEVER have a "system", for everybody has a unique way of making resources useful for us, but we can certainly do it in a way that benefits our collective learning experience. It's a new group environment for all of us, and the ride is much more interesting when we do it together!

Beijos.

Joao Alves

> João, we could see how the lists work. However, I think we don't have the "make lists" option for a group. Just for the individual accounts. I'll take a look at it.<

Oh, what a pity it isn't possible to create lists for groups. It would be great to organize bookmarks and share within the group.

jennifer verschoor

Paul thanks for sharing the post Sue Waters wrote on Tags and Categories. Very clear and simple!!!

Diigo calls Categories "Lists " Take a look at what their website says about tags and lists:

"Tags and lists are two different ways to organize information. Tags are best for diverse and disparate information, while lists are best for focused information. "

There is a way to continue this conversation with sticky notes. For example we directly take a look at how some people tag and write sticky notes on that site. Must confess that I still don´t know how to do this.

I´m sure we will all learn together!!!
Regards
Jennifer

Paul Beaufait

Jennifer, this is fascinating.

jennifer verschoor wrote: "Diigo calls Categories 'Lists.' Take a look at what their website says about tags and lists: 'Tags and lists are two different ways to organize information. Tags are best for diverse and disparate information, while lists are best for focused information'" (http://www.diigo.com/learn_more?p=1).

I'd breezed past the "Add to a List" option thinking it meant sharing with a mailing list (a list of personal contacts). I'll have to try it out.

Dennis Newson

One of my tags would be Carla - even if I ended up with some items on cooking recipes.

Dennis aka Denos

Carla Arena

Dennis Newson wrote:
> One of my tags would be Carla - even if I ended up with some items on cooking recipes.
>
> Dennis aka Denos

Oh, yes, funny Dennis! Certainly cooking is on my list! In fact, I should organize my personal items better. In fact, I tag my stuff as " carlaarena" just to keep track what I've been producing and aggregating it, though I never really checked what would happen if I typed it. Could be scary!

Jokes apart. I think that this is a great reminder, Dennis. We should tag the stuff we produce with our names so that we can easily retrieve our online artifacts. I also do that with the names of others altogether. In this case, I guess Paul's suggestion of CamelCase would be perfect. So, how should I tag you???

Paul Beaufait

Diigo explains when you first try:

[The] "Lists" [function] provides another great way to organize bookmarks, a way that is complementary to tagging. Lists are somewhat like folders, but more versatile -- you can easily arrange and re-arrange the sequence of the items in the list by simple drag-and-drop, and by separating the items into sections. With one click, you can also easily turn a list into an interactive slideshow using our WebSlides. So when do you use tags and when do you use lists? Basically, use lists for organization whenever the sequence of the items is important. Otherwise, tagging usually suffices.

(What are Lists?, www.diigo.com/list/[username], 2008.07.03)

This makes me think that learningwithcomputers might work better as a list than a tag.

Carla Arena

Paul Beaufait wrote:
>This makes me think that learningwithcomputers might work better as a list than a tag.

Yes, Paul, it's a possibility if you do it as your own list, but as a group, we don't have the list option.

Carla Arena

Carla Arena wrote:
> Paul Beaufait wrote:
> >This makes me think that learningwithcomputers might work better as a list than a tag.
>
Hi, Paul. I was just here checking possibilities, and realized that we still need to extend our learningwithcomputers tag community. If everybody tagged stuff under learningwithcomputers, besides sharing bookmarks with the group, we could visualize very easily what everybody is bookmarking and we'd certainly find hidden treasures in there.
http://www.diigo.com/community/tag?tag=learningwithcomputers

Paul Beaufait

Ahhh, yes, Carla, thanks for the reminder!

 

How easy it was to forget the pity Joao points out in message 29.

 

Perhaps we agree we've discovered at least one Diigo shortcoming.

Joao Alves

Carla Arena wrote:

> Hi, Paul. I was just here checking possibilities, and realized that we still need to extend our learningwithcomputers tag community. If everybody tagged stuff under learningwithcomputers, besides sharing bookmarks with the group, we could visualize very easily what everybody is bookmarking and we'd certainly find hidden treasures in there.
> http://www.diigo.com/community/tag?tag=learningwithcomputers

Carla, I totally agree with you on creating a common tag for the group as I had suggested before. Let's tag everything with share with the group with the tag 'learningwithcomputers'. Some may find this a too long tag but since there already so many tags with this name, lets agree on that and use it. A pity this wasn't decided earlier. Like Carla said, we could easily find some treasures there.

Carla Arena

Paul Beaufait wrote:
>

Ahhh, yes, Carla, thanks for the reminder!

 

How easy it was to forget the pity Joao points out in message 29.

 

Perhaps we agree we've discovered at least one Diigo shortcoming.

True, Paul, but I still think it's easy to organize stuff you define a unique tag for certain personal matters and decide other common tags for our public good. What do you think?

Carla Arena

Joao Alves wrote:

>
> Carla, I totally agree with you on creating a common tag for the group as I had suggested before. Let's tag everything with share with the group with the tag 'learningwithcomputers'. Some may find this a too long tag but since there already so many tags with this name, lets agree on that and use it. A pity this wasn't decided earlier. Like Carla said, we could easily find some treasures there.

Joao, I'll send a message to the group suggesting it, OK?

Joao Alves

> Joao, I'll send a message to the group suggesting it, OK?<

Ok, good. :-)

Paul Beaufait

Carla Arena wrote: "I still think it's easy to organize stuff [if] you define a unique tag for certain personal matters and decide other common tags for our public good. What do you think?" (message 39).

I think so, too. I'm afraid that what I posted about here yesterday got lost; it might have deflected the group from adopting a longish tag for general use. Nevertheless, learningwithcomputers is plain English enough to fill the bill, and easy enough to remember.

It defines our collective foci more succinctly than would, for example, educationaltechnology, Our foci rule out, perhaps, Celtic rock music, but not the site where I found some, that I've just recommended to students interested in developing their listening skills: Jamendo!

Holly Dilatush

I'm replying to myself because I trust Carla (and others) will find it and help me!

I've been trying to catch up -- but seem to be running into issues. Learning curve stories:

1) I had noticed that all of the sites I'd been diigo'ing bookmarking and tagging with learningwithcomputers (and many other tags, as per recommendations -- for my own use and others') -- I noticed that they were not showing up in the "bookmarks" email notices I'd been receiving when others bookmarked...

In trying to fix the problem, I went to my diigo dashboard and clicked on many of the recent bookmarks I'd made and "shared with group -- learningwithcomputers"

So -- Question: has anyone been receiving them?

*I also tried clicking on a URL and bookmarking and this time adding 'share with group' learningwithcomputers -- and THAT one DID show up in an email notice -- but are any of the other sites being shared???

*I tried re-reading wiki tasks and found

"For this task, also use the tag "learningwithcomputers" so that we can aggregate our bookmarks."

This is what I THINK I've been doing? But not sure any of you are seeing them?
--
Second problem -- trying to follow this direction/task:
"Click on their photos/avatars, and "request friendship" to some of them."

I've tried four different folks -- but keep getting a "captcha error" pop-up notice? sigh...
I'm not trying to be unsociable, unfriendly -- just can't seem to follow the directions successfully? any ideas?
--
and, I'm happy to report that I did just successfully post a highlight and sticky note.
I think I had been forgetting to unclick "private" on all my earlier attempts? sigh...
one step at a time (or several steps at a time, but always more steps ahead?!)
holly

Paul Beaufait

About one problem Holly Dilatush experienced while rapidly attempting and reviewing past weekly tasks calling for group bookmarking and tagging, she wrote and asked:

I noticed that they [sites she'd bookmarked] were not showing up in the "bookmarks" email notices I'd been receiving when others bookmarked... In trying to fix the problem, I went to my diigo dashboard and clicked on many of the recent bookmarks I'd made and "shared with group -- learningwithcomputers"

So -- Question: has anyone been receiving them?

*I also tried clicking on a URL and bookmarking and this time adding 'share with group' learningwithcomputers -- and THAT one DID show up in an email notice -- but are any of the other sites being shared???

*I tried re-reading wiki tasks and found, "For this task, also use the tag "learningwithcomputers" so that we can aggregate our bookmarks." This is what I THINK I've been doing? But not sure any of you are seeing them?

Regrettably from this end, the short answer is no. I've just reviewed Daily Updates received from July 4 to July 7, all sent at around 16:05 JST (UTC + 09:00). On first glance I didn't see any bookmarks from Holly, but thought I may have been too hasty clicking and scrolling through the soup. So I searched each message for her name, yet found nothing from her.

I would have guessed that sharing with the group would do the trick. Now I guess not!

Holly Dilatush

Paul, although I will not say I like the content of your answer, I do appreciate the thorough response and your efforts to investigate.
Maybe someone else will be able to identify where I'm going wrong, if I'm doing wrong, and guide me to a successful resolution?

Maybe the 'owner' of the LWC site has to initiate a way that 'aggregates' all tags of learningwithcomputers ?

Anyway, thank you for the response!
holly
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Regrettably from this end, the short answer is no. I've just reviewed Daily Updates received from July 4 to July 7, all sent at around 16:05 JST (UTC + 09:00). On first glance I didn't see any bookmarks from Holly, but thought I may have been too hasty clicking and scrolling through the soup. So I searched each message for her name, yet found nothing from her.

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I would have guessed that sharing with the group would do the trick. Now I guess not!

Paul Beaufait

Hello again,

Back from a long round of explorations in and out of Diigo, I think I have a work-around to your problem. I'd used a bookmarking interface from WebSlides that included Diigo and for group designations as options. However, when I checked among my bookmarks later, I found that the listing for the LwC group had indeed failed to manifest itself there.

I'd insert a screenshot here if I could, but words must suffice. At the head of your bookmark list in Diigo (http://www.diigo.com/user/[username]) are checkbox and dropdown menu options. By selecting (a) ready-made bookmark(-s), you can use those options to (re-)dedicate it/them to the LearningwithComputers group.

On a separate thread, Paul Beaufait wrote:

The Diigo interface I reached [from WebSlides] displayed an option to share with groups, but no group comment window opened in the time that elapsed before I was ready to save the bookmark and move on. In the end, the additional steps that I found were necessary to bookmark a WebSlide show in Diigo might discourage students from bothering to take them. ...

(How do you envision using the Webslides feature, message 2)

Holly Dilatush wrote: > Paul, although I will not say I like the content of your answer, I do appreciate the thorough response and your efforts to investigate. > Maybe someone else will be able to identify where I'm going wrong, if I'm doing wrong, and guide me to a successful resolution? > > Maybe the 'owner' of the LWC site has to initiate a way that 'aggregates' all tags of learningwithcomputers ? > > Anyway, thank you for the response! > holly > > > >

Evelyn Izquierdo

Carla Arena wrote:
> Week 2 Discussion - How should we use the tagging system to better organize our group bookmarks and enhance collective knowledge within the LearningwithComputers group?

Dear Carla:
I think we can choose a system based on the topics developed per month. We can cooperate feeding the bookmark if we agree in advance the tag to be used. What do you think?
Evelyn

Carla Arena

Hey, Evelyn,

Besides all the tags we use individually, I think it's a good idea to decide for some unique tags according to specific topics. For example, yesterday, when I was adding to the Webheads group some resources related to Spanish, I added "spanishpractice" as a unique tag to all of the links I was bookmarking.

Evelyn Izquierdo wrote:
> Carla Arena wrote:
> > Week 2 Discussion - How should we use the tagging system to better organize our group bookmarks and enhance collective knowledge within the LearningwithComputers group?
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> Dear Carla:
> I think we can choose a system based on the topics developed per month. We can cooperate feeding the bookmark if we agree in advance the tag to be used. What do you think?
> Evelyn